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plattsburghpeace

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Phelps is planning on coming to Plattsburgh NY (they've called our churches in Plattsburgh "sodomite whorehouses") to picket during our Mayor's Cup (a 10-day family festival)  in July 2005 because our mayor is openly gay and because we're so close to the Canadian border. Gay marriages have been performed in Canada and Fred Phelps is banned from ever returning to Canada for burning their flag.

Plattsburgh For Peace is a local committee which has formed to handle this situation. We've got a positive and constructive fundraising scheme to discourage Phelps and his clan from picketing in Plattsburgh. It's a pledge drive for people to pledge money to a charity FOR EVERY MINUTE PHELPS AND ANY OTHER WBC MEMBERS PICKETS IN PLATTSBURGH. In this way, the longer Phelps and other WBC members stay to spew hate, the more money will be raised for the exact causes they picket against!
 
Would you check out this web site? It's called http://www.plattsburghforpeace.com/. If you like it, would you consider passing it along to anyone and everyone you can think of?
 
Thank you for your time and for this forum,
Plattsburgh For Peace

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That's an interesting idea. I kinda doubt that it will persuade Phelps to not come, but at least you will have raised funds for good causes. I hope it works out for the best. Phelps is scum.
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It would irk him that his opponents are profitting from his presence but the bottom line is he continues to profit from the acrimony that he sows.

The only thing worse than being noticed is not to be noticed and it would be a case of any notoriety is better than being ignored. If he was to be ignored he would only try harder.

The born agains realise that if they werent shoving themselves into the spotlight all the time they would be as irrelevant as Apollo these days, so intollerance pays off for them. And the lbg (what's the acromym?) community are the "whipping boys". If it's not the Jews, its the blacks or the Mexicans, it's always someone who acts as a focus for these hate groups.

You guys are probably stopping Phelps as much as he can be.

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plattsburghpeace

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Thanks for the support...we realize that this web site, and our idea, is kind of a double-edged sword. To give him (them) any publicity isn't good but they're going to get it anyway so we are trying to turn it into a positive, love-filled (vs hate-filled) situation. I've received countless positive emails regarding the site and only one negative one. The negative one was anonymous. Go figure. Becky


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DocStrange

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Can't we just throw dog poop at the Phelp's cult until they leave?

If anything, it will improve their odor...


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For those of you who don't know anything about him, Mayor Dan Stewart of Plattsburg is credited with this northern NY state city's renaissance.  He's widely respected by his constituents and, perhaps even more irksome to the Phelps mob, speaks French like a Canadian.  He's attracted Canadian business interests at a time when trade with America is not a terribly popular (though necessary) thing north of the border.

And he's Republican!



If I could make a suggestion for an action that was effective during the Phelps' visit to Montpelier, VT; have a contigent there to line up and turn their backs on the Phelps trash.  They get really worked up over that.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
And he's Republican!


Isn't it amazing that Republicans throw up a hooplah because this Republican is gay...

But they have nothing to say about Gannon/Guckart?

Like Clinton, they only attack those that are doing good.

"Everybody here remembers the Clinton witch hunts, don't you? It was almost like the Republicans got together and said, 'Years of peace and prosperity. A booming economy. We're respected all over the planet. Everything's going good. Clinton MUST BE STOPPED!' -- Bill Maher

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If I could make a suggestion for an action that was effective during the Phelps' visit to Montpelier, VT; have a contigent there to line up and turn their backs on the Phelps trash. They get really worked up over that.


I hear ya. Want to really get a fundie's goat? Ignore him and make him irrelevant!

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He may say he is a Republican, but he had been a Democrat, but change parties so that he could run against democrat Clyde Rabideau .  He is still a democrat inside.


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He is still a democrat inside.


Whew, that's good to hear. At least there's some hope for him.

Better to be a Democrat than a hypocrite.

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He may say he is a Republican, but he had been a Democrat, but change parties so that he could run against democrat Clyde Rabideau .  He is still a democrat inside.

It really doesn't matter what Texas Republicans think.  What matters is what NY Republicans think:

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Gay Republican Candidate Scores Big Endorsement
Pataki Endorses Stewart
October 28, 1999
By Joe LoTemplio
Staff Writer
The Press-Republican, (Plattsburgh, NY), Front Page

PLATTSBURGH - In a rarity for City of Plattsburgh politics, Gov. George Pataki came to town to endorse mayoral candidate Daniel Stewart.

Stewart, a Republican, is running against 10-year Democratic incumbent Clyde Rabideau.

"This is a statement that the governor wants to produce even more than the significant amount he already has for the city and North Country by working with me and our North Country leaders in Albany," Stewart said.

The governor attended a luncheon for Stewart at the Best Western Inn at Smithfield, which was attended by about 100 Republicans.

"I know that Dan Stewart has the right vision and the passion and commitment to lead Plattsburgh into the 21st century," Pataki said.

The governor said the state can pass all the laws it wants, but it's up to the local governments to do the actual work to make life better.

"It's at the local level that the police have to be allowed to do the job, and the police of Plattsburgh know that the person who will let them do the job to make Plattsburgh a safer city is Dan Stewart," Pataki said, in reference to the City Police union's endorsement of Stewart.

Pataki also said Stewart has sound ideas on improving recreation and tourism promotion.

"This is a historic city that did play a prominent role in the history of our great country, and Dan Stewart has both that forward-looking vision and that sense of community to lead Plattsburgh," the governor said.

"Dan Stewart is not just going to be the next mayor of Plattsburgh, he is going to be a great mayor of Plattsburgh."

Pataki sidestepped the question of whether his endorsement of Stewart had anything to do with the fact that Rabideau ran for lieutenant governor on the Democratic ticket last year.

"I've been endorsing and working for candidates all across the state ... and I'm hopeful that we will have a great working relationship with the mayor of Plattsburgh," he said.

"My obligation is to make every community better in any way I can, and that's what I'm going to do, and that's what I've always done."

Rabideau said he was not surprised by Pataki's visit.

"The governor has visited a lot in the past year, and if I had anything to do with it, all the better," Rabideau said.

"But I bear no ill will. We are all team players in the state."

Rabideau held his own news conference later in the day Wednesday, with three local businessmen who said they support the mayor's practices of helping small businesses.

Stewart said that, as a Republican mayor, he will be able to get more done for the city working with Republican State Sen. Ronald B. Stafford, Republican Assemblyman Chris Ortloff and Pataki, than Rabideau could as a Democrat.

"The cog in the wheel has got to be taken out in order to move forward, and that is what I plan on doing in this city," Stewart said.

While an endorsement from a sitting governor is considered to be a campaign plum, Stewart said it will be hard to gauge just how much it will make a difference in next week's vote.

"People will still have to make up their minds, but the meal on their plate in front of them has been enhanced by the governor's visit," he said.

One Democrat, former Assembly candidate Michael O'Connell, criticized the Republican support of Stewart, who is openly gay, saying he questioned whether it was sincere.

O'Connell, who said he may run for Assembly again next year, charged that Ortloff has voted against gay-rights legislation.

"As usual, he (Ortloff) is saying one thing and doing another," O'Connell said.

Stewart said he welcomes Ortloff's support.

"Chris Ortloff is the one who brought me into the Republican Party, and we have a right to disagree on some issues, but we are both man enough to put our differences aside for the betterment of our community," Stewart said.  


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